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Podcasts: Narrative Control - Episode 25 - Gaming on a Budget

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    Hi and welcome back to Narrative Control.  This week we’ve got guests… guests who like us are broke but still want to game.  So we’re going to talk about how to get your game on during this tough economy.

    Hosts: Sean Nittner, Justin Evans
    Guests Hosts: Shaun Hayworth, Kristin Sullivan

    Length: 22:35

    Show Notes
    [00:29] Introduction to the show: Gaming while broke with guests Shaun Hayworth and Kristin Sullivan from This Modern Death.
    [00:57] Editing issues.  Trying to keep these shows in the 20 to 25 minute range. 
    [01:19] A short episode (number 26) will follow this one about PDF vs. print media. 
    [01:47] This Modern Death Promo
    [02:22] Kristin introduces the show for us. Our normal introduction… only longer… and with sniping.
    [03:40] Money spent on microphones (and maybe kids) prevent us from having a lot of money to buy gaming books
    [04:10] Some game systems are expensive to get into: White Wolf, Shadowrun, Dark Heresy.
    [04:37] Even some indie games are expensive.  Burning Empires is beautiful but it can set you back.
    [05:51] John Wick talks about how games really haven’t gotten that much more expensive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clmdJy0GJms&feature=channel_page
    Starting at the bottom: What free games are out there
    [06:36] Dan Bayn’s “Wushu”.  Core game and Matrix supplement: http://www.bayn.org/wushu/freebies.html  Free settings on Saberpunk.net: http://wiki.saberpunk.net/Wushu/WorldsAmpSettings  Wuxalted, an Exalted Wushu adaptation: http://www.voidstate.com/rpg/Wushu-Exalted_Rules_1.5.pdf  Wuxalted Redux Wiki: http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Wuxalted_Redux
    [06:57] Rob Bohl’s “Misspent Youth”: http://misspentyouthgame.com/
    [07:02] Spirit of the Century SRD: http://www.faterpg.com/dl/sotc-srd.html  Shadow over Yesterday:  The 2.5 Version: http://zork.net/~nick/loyhargil/tsoy2/book1--rulebook.html  The 3.0 Wiki Version: http://tsoy.crngames.com/
    [07:35] Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 SRD is still available: http://www.d20srd.org/
    [07:58] Ben Lehmans “XXXXtreme STREET luge”: http://swingpad.com/dustyboots/wordpress/?p=235
    [08:08] Four Color System (the old Marvel RPG mecahincs): http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=50837&it=1
    [08:20] Development on the Forge: http://www.indie-rpgs.com/
    [08:33] 24 Hour RPG submissions: http://www.24hourrpg.com/ (Click on “Entries”).   Game Chef: http://game-chef.com/index.shtml
    [08:49] Jared Sorenson’s challenge to create and market a game in 30 days on the Story-Games forum: http://www.story-games.com/
    [10:07] Getting in during the development process.  Play-test games.
    What about spending a couple bucks
    [10:22] Houses of the Blooded.  FIVE BUCKS for the PDF: http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16617&cat=0&page=1
    [10:48] Going to local conventions at game stores… like Good Omens Con: http://www.goodomensgames.com/index.php/con/
    [11:17] Many game stores do demos of games.
    [11:25] International Dungeons and Dragons day: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20050726x
    Sources for old games
    [12:02] Buying from convention flea markets, Ebay, local used book stores.
    [12:54] Old games work looking at again: Castle Falkenstein and James Bond
    [13:26] Good deals on Fred Hick’s blog.  Check it out here: http://drivingblind.livejournal.com/   Some other designer blogs not mentioned in the podcast:
    John Wick: http://wickedthought.livejournal.com/
    Vincent Baker: http://www.lumpley.com/
    Paul Tevis: http://gameslinger-enterprises.com/
    Jason Morningstar: http://gameslinger-enterprises.com/
    Ben Lehman: http://benlehman.livejournal.com/
    [14:08] Shaun’s pearl of wisdom: Pay attention to the internet.
    [14:45] The Ashcan front: http://www.ashcanfront.net/
    [15:20] Game chef anthologies:
    [15:43] Another $5 John Wick Game: Wilderness of Mirrors: http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16756
    [16:23] Very cheap… sometimes free PDFs on http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/ and http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/
    [17:13] Repurpose existing games into something else.
    [17:30] Lots of reasonable indie supplements.  Roanoke for $10: http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=20794&it=1
    [17:43] Listen to podcast about games: http://www.rpgpodcasts.com
    [18:22] Borrow from your friends.  Pass books around your circle of gamers.  Should we take good care of our books? 
    [19:57] Shaun’s method of getting over the new-book feel.
    [20:50] Pimping all of our forums and such.  Kristin’s Brain Place: http://babe.thismoderndeath.com

    Links

    Not mentioned in the show, but very useful is John H. Kim’s list of free games on darkshire.net: http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/freerpgs/

    Direct Download: NC_Episode_025.mp3

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    • CommentAuthorrenatoram
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2009 edited
     
    Nice episode... a bit wandering, but the banter with the "This Modern" guy and gal was funny.

    Some other good free options for people looking for good, solid systems that don't cost a penny:

    The EvilHat Wiki
    (contains or links to Fate versions WITH setting: Lord of the Rings, Traveller-like, Falkenstein like, etc)

    The PDQ# system, at the core of the new game (S7S) from Chad Underkoffler: geared towards adventure and swashbackling action in the vein of the musketeers novels, the princess bride, and so on.


    There's tons of others, obviously :)
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    Cool, thans for the additions.

    I'm glad you liked the show even if it was a bit wandering... heh, you should have heard it pre-edit :)

    Shaun and Kristin (and Randy but he wasn't around) are a blast to hang out and game with. We met a few years ago at KublaCon playing a Dogs in the Vineyard variant (Watchdogs at the Watercooler) and have been gaming, hanging out and (more recently) podcasting since then. If you're intrested check them out This Modern Death
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    • CommentAuthorLunatyk
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2009
     
    One good way I found to get games is to buy stuff for other people... eventually, you get books you never heard about...

    also, might be a bit late but since Wizards of the Coast suspended sales of their pdfs, all other companies started offering their products. White Wolf is giving away Exalted for free, and they give a coupon to use for other sales... I think Paizo does something similar but I don't know anything more specific...
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    • CommentAuthorrenatoram
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2009
     
    Oh, I'm a regular listener of TMD... actually I found your podcasts at about the same time (can't recall which first... but it mentioned the other one, and so here I am).
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    Yeah, this was recorded before the whole WotC PDF shakedown but I agree, right now is a great time to be buying PDFs from other vendors.
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    • CommentAuthorShaun
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2009
     
    This was totally your best episode evar, Sean. You should have those guests on more often.
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    • CommentAuthorBG_Josh
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
     
    A great place to find old games is "Bookfinder.com" it is a program that searches used book stores.

    I picked up Ultimate Powers Guide for Marvel Super Heroes there.

    You can also find used books on Amazon.com, there I have picked up assloads of GURPs books. And a bunch of non fiction that I use in gaming. (any type of game you want to run buy the GURPs book on it used, worth the investment)

    Another source for cheap books is to go around on the last day of a con and ask for deals. I've picked up many games like that.
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    Thanks Josh. You bring up a really good point regarding GURPs. There are a lot of systems that produce excellent sourcebooks that can be ported over to other games. Other examples are the Hero lines like Dark Hero, Ninja Hero, Pulp Hero, etc.
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    • CommentAuthorBG_Josh
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
     
    I have been told that about the Hero line. My lament is that you have to pay full price for them, unlike GURPS books that can be $4 or $5 dollars.
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    Should have had this before, but there is TONs of stuff over at 1,000 Monkies, 1,000 Typewriters

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